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My thoughts on…Revival

Definition of Revival
1 : an act or instance of reviving : the state of being revived: as a : renewed attention to or interest in something b : a new presentation or publication of something old c (1) : a period of renewed religious interest (2) : an often highly emotional evangelistic meeting or series of meetings
2 : restoration of force, validity, or effect (as to a contract)
When we pray for revival to sweep across our church, cities, states, America, or world…what are we praying for? Are we praying for souls to be saved or for God to move and revive His local churches? The thing about this is the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers…so we do not need more God if He lives within us. So if the meaning of revival refers to something being restored or revived it would have to already exist to be revived. So revival isn’t for souls being saved but for the body of Christ to be revived.
My first issue is: this reflects a God that we have to wait on. That until He moves we cannot be revived. It puts all the blame on God. Do we really need more God when He already dwells within us or do we need less of us? Is it our responsibility to stay revived or Gods? Do we really have to wait on a Father to move when He has already paid the ultimate price? Why does a redeemed child of God need to be revived? If we as redeemed children need to be revived it is because we have lost touch with our Father…you want to be revived give up the things of this world keeping you from Him and go to Him!
Secondly is: it reflects an “I” mentality. We are already bought, adopted children of God, sons and daughters of God, redeemed men and women with God Himself living within us. Its focus is on God blessing us…is this the revival you are praying for? A”revived” child of God is one who is going to walk in obedience to God’s Word. According to the Word of God, those who obey Christ are those who love Christ (Read John chapters 14,15, & 16).
So when you are praying for revival I ask are you really wanting to be revived? If so, start living in obedience to the word of God and watch the revival take place in your life. Remember you are what you hang around…not meaning to abstain from the world but watch who your good friends are…(1 Corinthians 5:6, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Proverbs 12:26, Proverbs 27:17)
Have you noticed how much praying for revival has been going on of late & how little revival has resulted? The problem is that we have been trying to substitute praying for obeying, & it simply will not work. To pray for revival while ignoring the plain precept laid down in Scripture is to waste a lot of words & get nothing for our trouble. Prayer will become effective when we stop using it as a substitute for obedience. ~A.W. Tozer

7 comments to My thoughts on…Revival

  • hiya =) ive been hearing & reading a lot about this topic lately, & so the other day, i asked my friend (she follows IHOP-KC who happens to do a TON of intercessory prayer & praying for revival & stuff) what she thought about praying for revival & what revival would look like. the conclusion i came to was this: praying for revival isn't asking God to revive the dead church, its asking God to stir the hearts of the church & of the nation so that we become hungrier & more in love with Jesus (definition: a renewed attention to or interest in something–not that we lost interest, but a new interest).
    she also mentioned a increase of miracles & signs & wonders so i asked her "shouldn't christians already be doing stuff like this? healing the sick? casting out demons? freely you've received, freely give? we're supposed to go out & do this stuff on a daily basis. shouldn't we, as christians, be revival instead of gathering & praying for it without doing anything?" she reminded me that many of the people (especially those who work with IHOP-KC) do do all this. what ihop in particular is doing is preparing people to go out into the world & disciple others. people say that we should just go for it where we are because the holy spirit lives inside of us so we carry authority, which is true, but she also reminded me that when we go out without preparation (prayer & fasting), many people get attacked spiritually & stuff. of course its not like if you do pray & fast, you're good to go, but i know this lady who prayed & fasted for a year before entering demon-filled scenes (one of the things she does is shes an opposer of the satanic church so everyone in that church prays for her death everyday) & she is now in a wheel chair & blind. however, because she prepared herself of all of that, she isn't afraid or discouraged & shes still going after it.
    anyway, back to the topic, when people pray for revival, it does not mean they substitute prayer for obedience, it means they want to see a change in their community, an interest & desire to come into people's hearts to know jesus.
    i may be wrong or right, but thats just how i see what praying for revival is, so i don't have anything against it when people are doing it & at the same time are actively changing the community around them by demonstrating everything jesus told us to do. =)

    • I do not want to get in any potential disagreements so I will just respond by restating my main point.

      My main point was simply that we have to do our part…not just wait for God. I mean God sent His only Son to be the final sacrifice for all sins. Jesus the King spoke and made law our authority in Him, our victory, etc. God didn't just make us sons and daughters of God but He also dwells in us. If God dwells in us do we really need wait for Him to give us more of Him or is it our responsiblitly to make ourselves lesser so that He might become greater within us.

      We have many churches in our area trying to prepare people to go into the world and preach the gospel but while we do have many who are doing it in our neighborhoods, there are many more who do not. If you are operating in the will of God then this doesn't apply to you. I believe God has done His part and given us the tools to do what He has commanded us to do. It is us who has to pick up our cross daily and follow Christ.

      I guess it is ones definition of obedience and a quick comment on something you said. Prayer should definantly be apart of EVERY follower of Christ's life…if you are not praying how can you know the Father. Also fasting should be a regular part of our lives as well. We should always be prepared to minster…a situation might arise where you cannot say please wait a day or two so I can fast and pray…we should already be ready.

      Bottom-line is Jesus is the answer! Thanks for your comment and be blessed in Jesus Christ.

  • Jonathan

    Love this post! The only thing I would add is something I've been asking for awhile – I see people whose churches are having revival and they seem to be praying and fasting more often during those times and also inviting people more often during those times. What would happen if they didn't wait for revival to do all that, but instead prayed for every service with that much fervency? Or fasted for every service, or invited people every week, not just during revival?

    It really made me think when I was living in Atlanta and visited churches that never held "revivals" (and helped start one too), because I grew up in a system where there were several "revivals" each year. But these churches were never "dry" or lacking spiritually; they maintained an atmosphere of worship and spiritual momentum week to week. Not only that, but the momentum carried over into the neighborhoods surrounding the churches – one thing people never questioned was the impact they were having in their communities. That's something I think is lacking in a lot of churches – like you said, they pray for revival…… and that's it. As if it's God's fault if nothing happens, because God brings revival. God does bring revival, but maybe God wants more than just lip service – maybe He isn't bringing revival because He knows we won't do anything with it outside of the buildings we call churches.

    Just an example, but when I was at Four Points in Acworth, GA, we never prayed for revival. We prayed for God to use us in the surrounding communities, we prayed for the times we spent together (rehearsals, setup/tear down, services, small groups, events, etc.), we prayed for each other and we prayed for the communities – but we never prayed for revival. Yet we grew every week. To this day they're still growing, reaching the surrounding communities for Jesus a few families at a time. People's lives are being changed, which in turn means the communites are changing – maybe I'm wrong, but that sounds a lot like revival to me.

    Just my two cents. Again – I love the post!

    • That is awesome to hear! Outside of our relationship with Christ that is what is all about…reaching the lost for Jesus! I have been encourage to see and hear about all of the believers of all denominations working in our communities…when I was staying within the 4 walls of my church it seemed like hardly anyone was trying to reach to the lost but there are many in obedience. Can you imagine how our communities would be transformed if the Church would get out and love people.

      John 14,15,16…it is amazing how everything is tied to obedience. I never saw it until recently. ttyl

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  • Hi

    Thank you for another great article. Where else could anyone get that kind of information in such a perfect way of writing? I have a presentation next week, and I am on the look for such information.


    • bufanator

      Sorry for the delayed response. I was simply my thoughts at the time. If I had to put an author/pastor to have stirred those thoughts it probably would have been Francis Chan and/or a couple other people I listen to at times.

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